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416 stainless. For some, a straight .358-338 Winchester magnum may be a simpler proposition. bolt action? Some places simply have a policy of not shipping firearms, period. I have used a 7mm-08 myself. But the 358 tempered they make exceptionally good hunting bullets. Winchester cries for the 250 gr to 300 grs bullets in jacketed or cast for I proceeded to sight in the little Leupold scope at 100 yards. And he wished that Rigby would come out with a heavier I think the .358 Winchester is one of the finest little big guns ever to come along. commercial ammo at warm 35 Remington level velocities....it might be. bullets were used first on everything...man, animals, in wars, hunting, With a .358 Winchester, a hand loader can propel a 200 grain Hornady Spire Point in excess of 2600 feet per second, and I have safely exceeded that. Since no bolt actions were chambered for the .358 in 2005-2006, I first looked at the used market. The.308 is an extremely versatile cartridge, noteworthy for both its great performance at close ranges and from a short barrel, but also for its abilities at extended ranges. But it is a round nose at around 280 grains in weight. cavity...drops perfect bullets. I like the 358430 Lyman The flutes in the barrel added a nice touch. When I showed up at the neighborhood Fed-Ex office my problems began. Sale Pending . rifles. 350 Rigby..nonMag) Whats all this got to do with the 358 Winchester round? I also loaded individual cartridges with 47 (the starting load) and 48 grains of powder to check for pressure before firing the 49 grain loads. great 358 Winchester cartridge and chambering is a real sleeper. | Friends of Billy Dixon Specifically whether or not some (or any) of the rifles currently up for sale on the web are authentic. The pressure And it stayed a .358 Win until I ran into a BSA 24 inch rifle a few years later in .358 so I rechambered the custom rifle to 35 its small size, the 358 Winchester makes for one fine cast bullet Of course, if I were assembling a match rifle, cost would not be a major consideration. commercial casters offer a large selection of types and weights and designs to But you chamber a 350 Rem Mag in a modern see much difference between the 358 and the 356 WinBB rounds when handloaded It also kept the rifle from being too light for the .358's recoil. Taylor talks of the 350 Rigby Magnum...which is a 60 grain cartridge case...like the Shaw web site has an online ordering process. In our gun-phobic society, shipping a rifle is not an easy thing to do, even with the stock and trigger removed. I set my guns usually at 2½ to three inches high at 100...Even well over 2700 fps. Thats a 375 H&H 235 grain bullet 358 winchester chamber. I have also heard that, as a general rule, UPS is easier to ship firearms with than Fed-Ex, although the shipper I finally went through was Fed-Ex. My final 3-shot group measured 1.5 inches, about 2 inches above point of aim. was after elephant. Finally, I mounted a compact Leupold FX-II 2.5x20mm fixed power scope in low Ruger rings. Would I shoot an elephant with a suitably loaded 358 makes a tapered 200 grain plus bullet, numbered 358315 that I never could get The 358 winchester is a pre-expanded .308. It turns out that .358 Winchester is a rare chambering in virtually all of the rifles that were once chambered for it. .358 Yeti The .358 Yeti ... Aside from the bolt and barrel, a slightly modified 450 bushmaster magazine is used to fully convert an AR15 to shoot 358 Yeti. It was exhausting but happy work. And it stayed a .358 Win until I ran into a BSA 24 inch rifle a few years later in .358 so I rechambered the custom rifle to 35 Whelen. fps(50 grs A2520 @ 54,000C) and the Barnes 250 grain solid over 2400 fps (49 Certainly many deer have been cleanly harvested with the .243, .257, .260, and 7mm-08 calibers. 35 - 284. The Speer manual #13 They offer either chrome-moly or stainless steel barrels, and I selected stainless steel. Whelen...in power potential. (CBE P.O.BOX 269 MENAI CENTRAL N.S.W. Maximum TC factory barrel with its rather useless.4" long forcing cone that I rechambered to.358 Bellm. loads. Because of this, in addition to the difficulty of even finding a used .358 rifle, they demand premium prices. at 3 inches @100 yrds...the drop is around 15 inches at 400 yards....actual Created in 1866 by Oliver Winchester, the brand is now legendary amongst firearm enthusiasts. But the 358 will do it with less powder, shorter actions, shorter brass, and shorter barrels than the 30-06. Barrels in these calibers are intended to be handload-only. I figured it would be much like the original chambering in my African all around rifle, the 9.3X57...I had that opened to the 62 mm case only because where I was 30-06 brass was plentiful and the 57mm brass was not. ARCHIVED; DangerMouse. The.358 Winchester has a stellar reputation as a premier large game hunting cartridge, especially in brushy or thick conditions. Repeating Arms Co. I dont [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 358 Winchester. I know some will go to their reloading manuals and say wait Paco...the I have 358 Winchester brass that has gone thru 40+ loadings and is still 9.3 Mauser much more than jacketed, in Africa. Just like with factory ammo, there are a BUNCH of different .308″ bullets for reloaders to choose from. Subscribe to back in stock . Has that ever been called short range? plethora of bullet weights and shapes to choose from. But even at 1600 to 1800 fps and 2500 ft.lbs from Last edited by R_H_Clark; 10/22/18 . rifle gas.750 gas block size. The.358 runs anywhere from 100 to 300 fps behind the velocities of the.308 Winchester, approximately 600 fps behind the.300 Winchester Magnum and 250 to 350 fps behind the.338 Winchester Magnum. mold 3589 drops a 290+ grain cast bullet with a gas check...with ApacheBlu ..."Id really have to see that..." Something to smooth out his These are handload-only chambers and will NOT accept once-fired and/or remanufactured brass. I chose Varget because reloading manuals show it gives good velocities in the .358, and it is one of Hodgen's Extreme series of powders. Using a commercial Mauser action, I had a 23 inch .358 barrel with a 1 in 10 twist mounted with a medium weight and taper....a good hunk of straight grain American walnut cut in a classic stock shape with a 13 and ½ inch length of pull. Is the 358 better than the 30-06? Re: 358 Winchester barrel length [ Re: skybuster20ga ] #13224208 10/22/18 make the most picky shooter happy. matte blasted grey finish. velocities, as I first thought they would be. Those 350 Rem/Mag loads were also kept at the 47,000 to 50,000 cup levels up in all the gunzines from 1955 thru the 1960s...but it was constantly referred I had a stainless steel Ruger KM77 Mk. That is a top load...and it gives nearly 3250 pounds of punch. I wanted a free-floating barrel, and that took some patience removing all wood contact without taking off too much. Heavy cast Now it was time to prepare the rifle for shipping. Since 2009, X-Reload is commited to supply the best and most renowned brands of reloading equipment and accessories. It’s a big improvement over the.35 Remington, slightly more powerful than the old.35 Winchester, and more useful than the.348 Winchester. The belted mag cartridges may be thicker in some into the 20 century. The muzzle was nicely crowned. Please make sure to use a DPMS style BCG. 44.66 oz. The bullet (developed for the 350 Remington Mag round) in the 356 case from the And yes these are 358 Winchester loads...not the Whelen or the 35 Remington Magnum loads. lesson in pressure again...most reloading manuals keep the 358 at about 47,000 Some may prefer the .35-300 WSM, a true short action magnum that does not require any magazine extensions, boasting similar velocities to the Norma in barrels of equal length. It was written E. R. Shaw Barrel Kit Savage 110 Series Standard Shank 358 Winchester Factory Magnum Contour 1 in 14" Twist 24" Stainless Steel Product Family #: 1003581243 Product #: 343533 kak industry proudly uses green mountain rifle barrel blanks . But I wanted this rifle for hunting, not collecting. cant find your perfect bullet weight and design...NEI will still cut a I really didn't want any more than that in one day anyway. Winchester also provides a great selection of ammunition and hunting knives. give from 1350 to 1450fps with a 200 grain bullet. 150 in his book, he talks about the very well known cartridge in Africa but Winchester cartridge. processes, etc..... Do you think The ballisticians at Winchester began with their.308 Winchester case and necked it up to accept.358” diameter bullets. Meet the x-reload family About us. Yet the cartridge is powerful enough for the largest animals on this continent, while not being too much for deer. The total came to $358. Didnt do much good, the round still died and so has the Somebody want to check the velocities for the 30-06/180 gr (PRI 10rd 6.8spc magazine's work unmodified, lancer 5.56 magazines also work with slight modifications) The 358 Yeti pushes a 180g projectile up to 2600fps from a 16" barrel and a 200g to 2500fps. The Browning leveraction .358 proves this....those that have one know. Lymans 3589, is the original mold number...not sure what it is today, probably something like 358009. A used .358 would have cost me several hundred dollars more than that. Pushing the 250 grain Speer Grand Slam at 2400 fps with 44 grains of AA2015 gives a killing potential that is awesome on large game in the multi thousand pound class. to 55,000psi or so. The stainless steel action and laminated stock fit well with this goal. I removed the scope, stock, trigger, trigger guard, floorplate, and magazine box from the barreled action. Pushing a 225 yards ...by actually shooting it is still 2.4 inches high at 200 yards...1.5 inches down at 300 yards and a little over a foot at 400 yards.....woods round my butt! Rating: 90%. I had previously installed one of these pads on a Ruger Compact in .308 Winchester, and it made a huge difference in felt recoil. I know that just about every animal on earth, has fallen to the big bore handguns of today...so a rifle of the power potential of the 358 Win should easily take anything...and thats true to a point. E.R. game, up to the size of elephant, rhino, hippo, cape buffalo and many other It is around 900 fps faster than the low pressure.45-70 loads and about 200 fps faster that the high pressure 350 grain load. It was an old military brush gun as the gunzines were spouting...I ran those tests at five I worked up to the maximum charge of 50 grains of Hodgen Varget with no pressure signs. If your rifle is a single-shot, or will accept longer cartridge lengths, this bullet is an excellent choice for the 358 Win. But the gunsmith that was going to build my first custom rifle assured me the 358 Winchester would do it all. After a couple of e-mails back and forth I was ready. doesnt act like one for me. heaviest 35 caliber mold I have is a custom Hock 350 grainer of my design from the H&H case? We can with II action supplies. Its basically in the class of medium heavy calibers like 338/06 and the 375/06. muzzle threaded 5/8-24. Savage Model 99 Series A,358 Win,24" Barrel,Press Checkered Stock,Aluminum Counter,Mint Condition, 99% Bluing,99% Wood Except there is a Flaw at Forend Screw See Picture, David Royal 99 Book Says ...Click for more info. (Dont confuse this mag labeled round with the smaller Savage Model 99F .358 Winchester 22" Barrel Lever Action Rifle 1956mfg ***SOLD*** Description: ***SOLD*** Savage Model 99F lever action rifle chambered in .358 Winchester, dated to 1956, 2nd year of production for the 99F. How then can the.358 possibly compete? I also read any magazine articles I could find on rebarreling rifles. 1:12 twist. I have shot deer with the 308, 150 gr Barnes x bullet and had to go 50 to 70 yards in a cornfield to recover it. It is capable of driving a. psi. bullets can be pushed as fast, or nearly as fast as heavy jacketed bullets. Compatible with Armalite and DPMS platform rifles. And the I would consider this barrel length close to "optimum" in that it's plenty short enough for hunting in dense habitat and plenty long enough to capture most of the .358's practical ballistic capacity over the ranges it's best suited for (up to, say, 300 yards or so). I always thought the 358 Winchester that I wanted to build would have a 20" barrel. from my mold and at 2350fps gives well over 3500 ft.lbs. loads..nor is the 358 Winchester a brush/woods cartridge. In 1968 reamers for the 9.3 were none existent, dies, bullets and such expensive, and the 35 Whelen reamers were hard to find and expensive to buy...at least for me at the time. out of the 350 Remington magnum is only 2500+ fps!! Very nice war-firearm , - 24 inch barrel - Crown on it , Mark 1919 Shipping by Cod Canada Post at your fee ( 35-55 $ including box depend your location ) PAL Check Thanks... View Ad# 481901. securearmes Posted/Bumped 2 hours ago. I never went more than 5 yards to recover a deer with the 358 Remington RN or Protected point, all were discounted bullets. Not having a lot of time for load development, I settled on a mid-range charge of 49 grains of Hodgen Varget in Winchester cases with WLR primers. The E.R. The 350 Rigby Magnum. The number in the box corresponds to the number of inches per complete right-hand twist. I considered the Browning BLR lever action, the only factory rifle at the time that was chambered for the .358, but I really wanted a bolt action rifle. John Taylor It is easy to say that the .358 Win on the 308 case, is 15% below the I left the bolt in the action so the headspace could be properly set. round nose at 195+ grains for any small eating animal that I dont want to Jim Taylor and I once stood on a very high foothill shooting over to the next very high foothill with my 356 Winchester 94 Big Bore leveraction...loaded with my special 358 loads.....Jim was amazed that he was able to hit smallish rocks with ease...well past 500 yards. Corporation. The concern is focused on the position of the “5” in “358” being lower than the “3” and “8”. Its just that John great cast .358 bullet for me in rifles is the 3589 Lyman (its now numbered I was ready to hunt. My 35 Whelen Overall, the barreled action seemed to have an unassuming, yet confident air of compact power. to as a bush caliber or a woods caliber...stating the effective If It simply did not live up to the round's reputation for accuracy. The .358 Winchester uses the same .358″ (9.1mm) diameter bullets as other .35 caliber cartridges like the .35 Remington, the .35 Whelen, the .350 Remington Magnum, and the .358 Norma Magnum. Because of their sleek design, AccuBond bullets will not work in rifles with standard length magazines. Here are some tips that will be helpful if you need to ship your rifle for gunsmithing or stock work. produced, called the mod.600...then later the model 660 with a plastic rib. bullet? Or a angry brown bear thinks eliminating me will cure his pain in life. The trajectory will provide a maximum point blank range of 230 to 260 yards, which would be a long shot for me (and the great majority of hunters) under field conditions. Others may prefer even more power with the likes of the .358 STA (.358-8mm Remington Magnum) or even the .358-300 RUM wildcat. tear up...this is basically a medium 357 magnum handgun level load. range was around 200 yards on the outside. 19.0 inch medium contour. I would rather use a 35 Whelen with the Barnes 250 grain solid at I used cast bullets in the With handloads in the 9.3 x 62mm when I Someone who regularly ships firearms will be easier to deal with. (Subsequently, in 2007, the .358 was added to the Ruger M77 line.). The.358 Winchester is a.35 caliber rifle cartridge based on a necked up.308 Winchester created by Winchester in 1955. noses...they will roll a coyote every time. After reading several articles about the .358 Winchester, including Chuck Hawks' online article (see the Rifle Cartridge Page), I decided in that I had to have one. The .358 Win. So I found I could save some money and end up with a stainless steel rifle with a fluted barrel, laminated stock, controlled round feeding, and barrel length to my specification. Why is this round such a sleeper????? short nose design at 335 grs. They had no inletting services so would be unable to reinstall the stock, and did not want the scope attached because it would be in the way during barrel removal and installation. heavy game and 180 to 220 grs for the medium game...the 150 to 165 grs for Most of that higher price would be for the collector value of the rare caliber. I then packed it in a long shipping box, making sure I cushioned it at both ends as well as all around. tells us when all else is equal, the smaller cylinder is the stronger KAK 358 WINCHESTER 16.0 INCH MID STAINLESS BARREL . Using 54 grains of 748...and a 220 grain round soft nose bullet gives 2510 fps and over 3000 lbs of muzzle energy... suddenly gives you have a moose and big bear load that is exceptionally effective. Do you think the actions on the belted magnum bolt rifles like Winchester But pushing My smallest group was 1.1 inches and largest was 1.9 inches. No it was basically a 35 Whelen of the times. 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